Hillary Clinton is saying as president she would defend any nation in the Middle East with U.S. Forces should they be attacked by Iran, including the oil producing nations (OPEC)! This has us in trouble in Iraq, why would Hillary Clinton want to expand the same mistake George W. Bush has made and now has America in a quagmire, losing American lives and American treasure? America cannot intervene in every Middle East war or conflict, America is not the policeman of the world, the U.S. Constitution forbids intervention in foreign affairs of other countries! Hillary said, she would respond militarily for any attack on a Persian Gulf state…Hillary would not have this authority without Congressional approval as U.S. president, this is part of our systems checks and balances! Why did Hillary make such a statement in the Pennsylvania debate? She is advocating military action on behalf of dictatorships and foreign nations who do not have democracy and use America’s military to protect them?
Hillary already said, Israel, but others in addition to that nation in the Persian Gulf region!
Beanie: You need to read the U.S Constitution, we are a sovereign nation, not the world police or military! Saudi Arabia sells us oil, but they also sell oil to our enemies! Should Iran attack Saudi Arabia or any of the other oil producing nations, a Congressional approval is needed to go to war, otherwise America is a dictatorship! Although George W. Bush and Dick Cheney were wrong on the reasons why they went to war with Iraq, they still had to get congressional approval! They is no umbrella coverage…each act of war must be approved separately and at different times by the u.S. Congress or it would be an illegal act. Middle East countries can defend themselves, spend their money to do so. America is going broke and why should American service personnel fight and die for Saudi Oil when they do not even allow women "Equal rights"! Hillary Clinton would not be allowed to drive a vehicle in Saudi Arabia, women are forbidden…so young American women are going to fight and die for them?
Hillary Clinton will not even be president, this is how foolish all these scenerio’s she is giving about umbrella military coverage is, not to mention anti- U.S. Constitutional! The presidency will be either McCain or Obama!
Monica K: You sound right…you make the most sense on my question! I hate to burst these people’s bubble, but America has its hands full with our two war fronts…we do not want war with Iran at this time! Anyone who knows the score on that nation, they are much more powerful than Iraq was and their military is much more larger! America’s military is stretched to the max, now and our troops & equipment is wearing out faster than it can be replaced. America does not have the military size it needs to address multiple war fronts unless its going to use its nuclear arsenal! When I served we had over 2 million more troops, than America does now!
We have to remember that Hillary Clinton’s candidacy is completely focus group driven. She wants to win over some Republican or independent voters who have been taken in by the Bush machine spitting out the malignment of Iran, even though the National Intelligence Estimate has come out saying there is no threat. Hillary knows through her focus groups that if she drops a few lines that sounds like she would be willing to ‘bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran’ that she may win those Republican or independent swing votes. So she invented a scenario where she could justifiably air out those sentiments, which could only be a scenario where Iran is cast as the terrible agressor. (When look at the reality, who has been the terrible agressor in the mideast? Who has de-stabilized the region? Bush used us to do that!) These debates are only stages that are looked at as opportunitie to manipulate voters–most of the time.
November 24th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
she meant Israel she just did not want to say it bluntly
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November 24th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
I agree with Hillary on this actually.
This is not the same as the Iraq war. If another country is being attacked and they are our ally then we should help them.
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November 24th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
She was speaking primarily about Iran’s development or use of nuclear weapons, and frankly, I agree with her, especially considering she said she would first exhaust all diplomatic options.
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November 24th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
to not offend anyone
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November 24th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
Unless you were watching a different debate than I, she never said such things. What she was advocating was including all Mideastern countries under a foreign policy umbrella.
You can misrepresent what she said all you want and post anything you’d like about her statements, but in reality this is a very common foreign policy approach. We either let all of our friendly nations have nukes (to defend themselves from our common foes) or we try to minimize nuclear proliferation by offering a treaty to those who agree with our policies.
If we don’t work with the Mid-East, all hell can break loose and WW3 would become a reality. What’s she advocating is not a nanny-government, but one where different nations with common beliefs agree to support each other against common enemies.
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While I agree with you that we are a sovereign nation, your suggested approach of burying our heads in the sand and hoping that everybody plays nice has not worked so well in the past. Neither has storming into a country and political situation that we are not prepared for. If you read the transcript of her answer, you’ll notice that Hillary said that diplomatic efforts first have to restore our credibility with our friends AND our foes, and that only when those who protect our military interests abroad are threatened will we respond.
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November 24th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
It’s jockeying. Iran could easily become fascist.
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November 24th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
it is all about oil dummy oil is the name of the game mr doodles
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November 24th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
We have to remember that Hillary Clinton’s candidacy is completely focus group driven. She wants to win over some Republican or independent voters who have been taken in by the Bush machine spitting out the malignment of Iran, even though the National Intelligence Estimate has come out saying there is no threat. Hillary knows through her focus groups that if she drops a few lines that sounds like she would be willing to ‘bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran’ that she may win those Republican or independent swing votes. So she invented a scenario where she could justifiably air out those sentiments, which could only be a scenario where Iran is cast as the terrible agressor. (When look at the reality, who has been the terrible agressor in the mideast? Who has de-stabilized the region? Bush used us to do that!) These debates are only stages that are looked at as opportunitie to manipulate voters–most of the time.
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November 24th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
With Hillary as CIC of America’s military we will be in bigger trouble then the enemy.
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